NEW Thiel Conspiracy & Julian's WARNING to USA on 250th | Julian Dorey • 444
Julian Dorey · 4 Jul 2026 · 1h 39m
Host: Joey Def, Julian Dorey
This episode continues an ongoing investigation into the Leon Black/Jeffrey Epstein/Apollo Global saga, building on reporting by journalist Henry Abbott. The host walks through the career of lawyer Andrew Levander, tracing his path from a young assistant US attorney who worked alongside a private-citizen Jeffrey Epstein recovering money in a 1980s Wall Street case, through decades representing figures tied to arms dealing and the BCCI scandal, to eventually leading the law firm hired by Apollo to "investigate" Black's ties to Epstein and clear him of wrongdoing. The host frames this as a conflict-of-interest pattern worth congressional scrutiny. From there the conversation moves to a Telegraph report detailing the cushy fake-office arrangement Epstein used during his lenient Florida prison sentence, then to reporting linking Epstein and former Israeli official Ehud Barak to mercenary operations tied to African mineral extraction. A long segment covers Peter Thiel-backed venture Objection, a paid "fact-checking" and AI-adjudication platform, examined through a Hollywood Reporter profile of its founder Aron D'Souza, with the host arguing it functions as an intimidation tool for the wealthy. The episode closes with an extended reflection tied to the July 4th anniversary, invoking warnings from Benjamin Franklin and George Washington about corruption, foreign influence, and factionalism, and applying them critically to both the Biden and Trump administrations.
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- Leon Black investigation recap and framing
- Andrew Levander's early career with Epstein
- Levander's later clients and Detert firm's Apollo report
- Epstein's fake office during prison sentence
- Epstein and Ehud Barak's African mineral/mercenary ties
- Doug Rushkoff billionaire 'the event' anecdote
- Peter Thiel's Objection platform explained
- Aron D'Souza profile and Gawker/enhanced games ties
- July 4th reflection: Franklin and Washington's warnings
- Comparing Biden and Trump administration failures
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“an AI tribunal would attempt to quote adjudicate a determination of truth, unquote.”
“there's this group of us, 15 to 20 of us, that are gay entrepreneurs, and we've all holidayed together for years”
“Anyone who would give up a little bit of liberty for a little more safety deserves neither liberty nor safety.”