“RIGGED Game!” - The Fed, Rothschilds, John Kiriakou & Erika Kirk | Zach Foust • 456
Julian Dorey · 31 Jul 2026 · 2h 60m
Guest: Zach Foust · Host: Joey Def, Julian Dorey
This conversation between the host and a real-estate-agent-turned-online-commentator ranges across finance, conspiracy, and religion in a loosely connected way. It opens with reflections on John Kiriakou, a former CIA officer turned whistleblower, and speculation about why intelligence-linked people are allowed to speak publicly. The guest recounts his own path from Army National Guard deployment in Afghanistan and a stint as a prison guard into real estate, where he built a career helping working-class buyers get into homes before watching affordability collapse. That personal history becomes the springboard for a long excursion through monetary history: the Federal Reserve's creation, the Pujo Committee's findings on banking concentration, the Rothschild-linked Loeb & Co., the 1929 crash, Bretton Woods, Nixon's closing of the gold window after a French demand for gold, and the rise of private equity through figures like Peter G. Peterson and Larry Fink. The discussion turns to Jeffrey Epstein's alleged role laundering financial reputations and brokering deals for wealthy clients, his documented ties to the Rothschild family and other elites, and doubts about how his death and the surrounding investigation have been handled. Later sections cover Thomas Massie's primary defeat amid heavy outside spending, accusations of antisemitism used to deflect criticism of the Israeli government, and a personal meditation on Christianity's political co-optation in America. Throughout, both men frame these as symptoms of a broken, oligarchic system rather than a partisan issue, while also joking, trading personal stories, and expressing guarded optimism about younger generations pushing back.
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- John Kiriakou and CIA whistleblowers
- Guest's military service in Afghanistan
- Working as a prison guard
- Getting into real estate and housing affordability
- Federal Reserve history and reserve requirements
- Pujo Committee and early banking concentration
- Bretton Woods, gold standard, and Nixon shock
- Rise of private equity and Larry Fink's CDOs
- Jeffrey Epstein's financial dealings and Rothschild ties
- Christianity, faith, and American politics
- Thomas Massie primary and dark money
- Israel criticism vs. antisemitism accusations
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“It would break my heart if he was still on the payroll and I would genuinely be stunned because of all the things that people publicly know that he's gone through that they put him through.”
“Lutnook took anywhere from 15 to 25 million of the total $135 million payout from American Airlines. He pocketed it”