"Satanic!" - Epstein Survivor TELLS ALL on Epstein Island & Disturbing Links | Lisa Phillips • 394
Julian Dorey · 10 Mar 2026 · 2h 3m
Guest: Lisa Phillips · Host: Joey Def, Julian Dorey
This conversation with Epstein survivor Lisa Phillips opens by reacting to the recent mass release of Epstein-related emails and files, with Phillips describing how even someone who lived through the abuse was shocked by the depth of depravity revealed, including casual references to trafficked children. She and the host dissect specific figures implicated in the files, including Howard Lutnick's congressional testimony, Bill Gates, Elon Musk's comparatively distant relationship with Epstein, and Les Wexner's continued lack of legal exposure. They discuss the Pam Bondi congressional hearing where survivors stood silently behind her, the apparent lack of empathy or accountability in American institutions compared to growing investigations in Ireland, Norway, and Lithuania, and how modern social media exposed a network that operated for decades in the shadows before smartphones and platforms like Facebook and TikTok existed. Phillips then walks through her own background as a teenage model shuttled between countries with little parental oversight, describing an industry culture of exploitation by agents and photographers that normalized abuse well before she ever met Epstein. She recounts in detailed, difficult terms her 2000 trip to Little St. James, encountering Prince Andrew, being coerced into a 'massage' that turned into an assault, and the psychological aftermath, including how Epstein's network relentlessly pursued her afterward through her modeling agency. She also reflects with notable nuance on figures like Sarah Kellen, distinguishing between women she believes were groomed and later complicit versus secretaries she holds fully responsible.
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- Reacting to the new Epstein file release
- Depraved details in the emails
- Sociopathic behavior of Epstein's associates
- Cape Town modeling pipeline and trafficking
- Scope of trafficking and societal cover-up
- Pam Bondi hearing and survivor confrontation
- Why victims fear coming forward
- European investigations vs US inaction
- Modeling industry culture of abuse
- Les Wexner, Elon Musk, and leverage/blackmail
- The assault and its aftermath
- Empathy for groomed enablers like Sarah Kellen
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“Not only do they look at um other people's kids that way, uh they looked at their own kids that way. They would say, "Oh, we're bringing our kids."”
“That is sex trafficking. You put someone on a plane and ship them somewhere else and then that's it. They get trapped on the island, their passports are taken away.”
“I actually think that the whole thing with the the babies and the young girls and stuff is just like a hobby or something they do for fun.”