“TERRIFIES Me!” - Inside Black Markets, 9/11 & Cartel TAKEOVER | Mariana van Zeller • 462
Julian Dorey · 14 Aug 2026 · 3h 21m
Guest: Mariana van Zeller · Host: Joey Def, Julian Dorey
A veteran investigative journalist who has spent nearly two decades documenting black markets walks through some of the most dangerous reporting assignments of her career, starting with a harrowing account of getting trapped during a military coup in Niger while filming inside an illegal gold mine tied to terrorist financing, and the improvised nine-day evacuation that followed. From there the conversation moves through gun trafficking from the US into Mexican cartels, the origins of the opioid and fentanyl crises (including early reporting on Florida pill mills and the Sackler family), fentanyl lab visits in Sinaloa, and a broader argument that black-market participants are usually ordinary people failed by broken systems rather than inherently criminal. She describes reporting on Syrian foreign fighters shortly after 9/11 whose footage was suppressed by American broadcasters, her time covering the North Korea detention of fellow journalists Laura Ling and Euna Lee, and stories on surrogacy exploitation, organ trafficking, scam compounds in Myanmar, and migrant smuggling networks like the one run by a coyote who called himself a king. Throughout, she argues that corruption and inequality, not evil individuals, drive these markets, criticizes politicians for exploiting immigration rather than fixing it, and reflects on balancing motherhood with a career built on physical risk. The host and guest also touch on Jeffrey Epstein as an example of impunity for the wealthy.
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- Niger military coup and gold mine filming
- Evacuation ordeal and rescue by Portuguese pilots
- Why she covers black markets, not individuals
- US guns trafficked into Mexican cartels
- Origins of the opioid crisis in Florida
- Fentanyl labs and Sinaloa cartel chemists
- Sackler family and pharma impunity
- 9/11 reporting as a rookie journalist
- Syrian foreign fighters story suppressed by US broadcasters
- North Korea detention of Laura Ling and Euna Lee
- Organ trafficking, surrogacy in Ukraine/Kenya, and migrant smuggling
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“the wheel of history turns and where and when you're born decides whether you get lifted or smashed by it”
“it's the systems that are broken and not the people, right? And that's really the crux for me.”