EXCLUSIVE: My Call w/ Epstein Buddy’s “Wife” & Charlie Kirk Pod REACTION | Julian Dorey • 460
Julian Dorey · 8 Aug 2026 · 1h 37m
Host: Joey Def, Julian Dorey
This episode is a co-host wrap-up rather than a formal interview, with Julian Dorey and producer Joey Dee reacting to a week of coverage. They open by discussing a four-hour-plus episode with a legal commentator and a forensics expert breaking down the Charlie Kirk shooting investigation, weighing what has and hasn't been publicly explained about the crime scene, autopsy, and the widely circulated rooftop video. The bulk of the episode is Dorey recounting a lengthy call with Amanda Goncalves, described as the mother of a child with businessman Paolo Zampolli, who was deported after an arrest and later became a public figure when Melania Trump gave a speech referencing Epstein-adjacent claims. Dorey walks through her account of being recruited into modeling as a young teenager, arriving in the US via Epstein's plane, her long on-and-off relationship with Zampolli, allegations of intimidation, a UN diplomatic-passport side story, and her claims about how Zampolli says he introduced Melania to Trump. He stresses which parts she allowed on record and which he's withholding. The episode closes with reaction to a separate podcast where a self-described former Mossad operative discussed Epstein's death, his alleged history with Ghislaine Maxwell, and her father Robert Maxwell, with Dorey assessing which claims seem credible and which seem exaggerated for effect.
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- Studio banter and LinkedIn joke
- Preview of Amanda Goncalves call and Epstein connection
- Reaction to Charlie Kirk assassination investigation episode
- Rooftop video and unanswered forensic questions
- 'Kirk effect' cultural aside
- Amanda's early modeling career and Epstein's plane
- Relationship history with Paolo Zampolli
- UN role, diplomatic passports, and tiger charity heist
- Deportation, ICE, and alleged Zampolli interference
- Melania Trump connection and how she met Trump
- Reaction to Danny Jones interview with Yuval Aviv
- Epstein's death and Ghislaine Maxwell/Robert Maxwell backstory
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“there were things that she said that were the direct opposite of what she would be incentivized to say.”
“I fear for my life. Just deport me.”
“He said, "All right, here's what you're going to do." He started helping her and he said, "Just blame the whole thing on the doctor and he's going to go to prison."”
“He was killed. It was arranged for somebody from the outside to go into his cell and kill him.”